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Old 10-23-2010, 03:05 AM
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To be honest, I never heard of this program before, but I decided to give it a try.

When I installed this, it asked me which partitions I wanted to be protected; so I chose all the partitions - but it offered to me ONLY the ones on my main (boot) drive. But, I am running this on a laptop with 2 internal hard drives.

How can I protect my 2nd hard drive ?
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:30 AM
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To be honest, I never heard of this program before, but I decided to give it a try.

When I installed this, it asked me which partitions I wanted to be protected; so I chose all the partitions - but it offered to me ONLY the ones on my main (boot) drive. But, I am running this on a laptop with 2 internal hard drives.

How can I protect my 2nd hard drive ?
You can't with Rollback Rx, nor with similar apps (imho it doesn't make any sense to do that anyway) ...just backup the files on the 2nd drive with a file-backup or disk-imaging program. Furthermore, it would be wise to use a disk-imaging program to also backup your system drive!

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Old 10-23-2010, 11:17 AM
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Hello TraumaDoc,

Welcome to the Horizon DataSys forum. For reference, support can also be reached at http://support.horizondatasys.com

Thanks for the feedback pvsurfer!

Best,
Jacob
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:59 PM
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To be honest, I never heard of this program before, but I decided to give it a try.

When I installed this, it asked me which partitions I wanted to be protected; so I chose all the partitions - but it offered to me ONLY the ones on my main (boot) drive. But, I am running this on a laptop with 2 internal hard drives.

How can I protect my 2nd hard drive ?
I wonder if you understand what is meant by "protected"?

RollBackRx protects you against that "oops" moment: a program install has gone wrong and left the registry in tatters, or you install a dog and wish you hadn't; and it gives you the freedom to try things like that out without having to worry too much. As long as you take a snapshot of how things were originally (either automatic or manual), you can return to that point as if nothing had happened.

This is also handy if you have "meddlers" in the house and you want to remove all trace of them being there!

It works by taking control of the file system, and it's fast. But that also means being very careful never to use anything else on the file system that may not understand what is going on - a defragger for instance.

So, the main task of RBRx is to "protect" your Windows installation and give you a means to back-track. It will also wind back to previous versions of data files (word processor documents for example) if they are stored on the system disc, but it is not a replacement for a proper backup routine.
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:53 AM
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...As long as you take a snapshot of how things were originally (either automatic or manual), you can return to that point as if nothing had happened...
I apologize in advance if this is off-topic - but (unfortunately) the above statement is not always true. Although Rollback Rx protects the system very well against (as you say) 'oops' incidents, it doesn't always work as it should if a system were to get infected with certain rootkits.*

While I totally understand that Rollback Rx is not intended to protect a system against malware infections, it should (by its very design premise) always be capable of rolling back to a pre-infection snapshot with the assurance that any infection inside the current snapshot does not rollback as well!

* Virtualization/Rollback software test - Wilders Security Forums
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Old 10-24-2010, 04:06 PM
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I did not intend to imply there would be any protection against malware. Malware is all too capable of interfering with the file system outside the OS's control, and therefore bypass the function of RBRx and potentially corrupt the snapshot tracking database.

Conventional backups are required as proof against infections and hardware failure, and if an image of the complete set of snapshots is required then the backup has to be a full partition image (including "unused" sectors and master boot record).
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:46 PM
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No offense, but those are some pretty rude replies. I'm not a moron and understand what the program does.

I use regular backups and system images as it is.

The point is, that there are files on disks other than the main Windows disk that are important and should be able to be included. Has it ever occurred to you that the program files directory, and other important system directories can be relocated to other system disks ? Many people do this as well you know, thus requiring protection of other disks.

Damage CAN be done to disks other than the system disk from many things.

An issue is that this program is advertised as a replacement for Windows System Restore and apparently you are unaware that System Restore protects all files by allowing you to restore to multiple previous versions of a file - system files, personal files, anything at all actually - it allows me to go back to a Word document multiple versions ago and so on.

So clearly this program is not what it is claimed to be
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:04 PM
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TraumaDoc, for all the years that i have used Rollback RX (starting from v7), Horizon have never implimented the ability to protect more than one HD.

As you know the ability to protect more than one partition (as long as they reside on Drive0) has always been a feature.

Horizon have never really explained this serious limitation (not to my knowledge anyway) and have been baffled as to why the more than one HD protection has never been implimented even in v9.1??

Perhaps the massive trouble Comodo Time Machine have had (couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch ) is a clue as to why they have avoided this feature.

EDIT: See here and especially here

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Old 10-25-2010, 03:12 PM
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No offense, but those are some pretty rude replies. I'm not a moron and understand what the program does.
Only trying to help, and it must be remembered that other people search these threads looking for answers. From a few lines of text I don't know how much or how little you know, and the teach instinct kicks in.

I genuinely don't understand how anything I wrote could be considered rude.
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