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Old 10-19-2011, 05:17 PM
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Question impact of rollnack rx uninstall

twofold question;

1) Every month windows update installs their security updates,amongst
others. Have rbrx installed. Will take a snapshot after installs.If need to uninstall 2x per year for third party defrag, will re-installation of windows up- dates be needed.
(this would not be possible)?

2) Prior to initial install of rbrx,Windows registry was,i guess you could
say, the equivilant to rbrx's data pointer system. With rbrx installed,
is Windows OS registry updated independently of rbrx? If so,registry
would always contain access to current system status even if you uninstall
rbrx.

Lastly(sorry), Is 3rd party cleaner(i use ccleaner to clean sys log files,temp
files,etc) still usable?

Thanks..
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:33 PM
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twofold question;

1) Every month windows update installs their security updates,amongst
others. Have rbrx installed. Will take a snapshot after installs.If need to uninstall 2x per year for third party defrag, will re-installation of windows up- dates be needed.
(this would not be possible)?
When you unINSTALL Rollback, during the process you are asked to select the snapshot you wish to unINSTALL to. You should select the CURRENT SYSTEM STATE to unINSTALL to, that way your system status at the time of unINSTALATION will be there when you reINSTALL... no additional updates will be needed.

Be careful here, though... when Rollback gets to that selection screen, it defaults to your original baseline (installation snapshot) which is definitely where you DON'T wanna uninstall to. Just select your current system state during that process.

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2) Prior to initial install of rbrx,Windows registry was,i guess you could
say, the equivalent to rbrx's data pointer system. With rbrx installed,
is Windows OS registry updated independently of rbrx? If so,registry
would always contain access to current system status even if you uninstall
rbrx.
Your understanding of the Windows REGISTRY is not very in depth. I won't get into what it really does... suffice it to say that the REGISTRY is totally under Rollback's full control as far as content is concerned. If you unINSTALL Rollback to any snapshot other than the CURRENT SYSTEM STATE, that's what the REGISTRY will contain... that snapshot's system information.

Just make sure you unINSTALL to the CURRENT SYSTEM STATE and all will be well.

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Lastly(sorry), Is 3rd party cleaner(i use ccleaner to clean sys log files,temp
files,etc) still usable?
There should be no problem with CCleaner. Just make sure you don't DEFRAG your disk while Rollback is installed... it won't hurt anything if you do but it will add excessive overhead to Rollback's prime purpose.
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I use CCleaner no problems.

What you need to understand is that whatever you do to Windows is completely reversible using RbRX - that is its main value. If you uninstall to the current system state, all the changes that have been accumulated in all the snapshots (including Windows updates) will crystalise into the uninstalled state. Uninstalling to Baseline returns the system to its original configuration, wiping out all the snapshot changes.
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When you unINSTALL Rollback, during the process you are asked to select the snapshot you wish to unINSTALL to. You should select the CURRENT SYSTEM STATE to unINSTALL to, that way your system status at the time of unINSTALATION will be there when you reINSTALL... no additional updates will be needed.

Be careful here, though... when Rollback gets to that selection screen, it defaults to your original baseline (installation snapshot) which is definitely where you DON'T wanna uninstall to. Just select your current system state during that process.



Your understanding of the Windows REGISTRY is not very in depth. I won't get into what it really does... suffice it to say that the REGISTRY is totally under Rollback's full control as far as content is concerned. If you unINSTALL Rollback to any snapshot other than the CURRENT SYSTEM STATE, that's what the REGISTRY will contain... that snapshot's system information.

Just make sure you unINSTALL to the CURRENT SYSTEM STATE and all will be well.



There should be no problem with CCleaner. Just make sure you don't DEFRAG your disk while Rollback is installed... it won't hurt anything if you do but it will add excessive overhead to Rollback's prime purpose.
thanks for reply. you're right. Windows knowledge limited along with my use of this forum.
useful info on rbrx's control of registry.
appreciate it.

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I use CCleaner no problems.

What you need to understand is that whatever you do to Windows is completely reversible using RbRX - that is its main value. If you uninstall to the current system state, all the changes that have been accumulated in all the snapshots (including Windows updates) will crystalise into the uninstalled state. Uninstalling to Baseline returns the system to its original configuration, wiping out all the snapshot changes.
learn more each time i use forum. was worried ccleaner was not effective.

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Do not use the Drive Wiper feature of CCLeaner while Rollback is installed.

This will fill your HD up and may cause big problems. There is a lot of discussion about this in these forums.
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Do not use the Drive Wiper feature of CCLeaner while Rollback is installed.

This will fill your HD up and may cause big problems. There is a lot of discussion about this in these forums.
thanks for info about drive wiper option in ccleaner.
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Yeah, sorry, forgot about that. I restrict CCleaner to registry maintenance type tasks.
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twofold question;

1) Every month windows update installs their security updates,amongst
others. Have rbrx installed. Will take a snapshot after installs.If need to uninstall 2x per year for third party defrag, will re-installation of windows up- dates be needed.
(this would not be possible)?

2) Prior to initial install of rbrx,Windows registry was,i guess you could
say, the equivilant to rbrx's data pointer system. With rbrx installed,
is Windows OS registry updated independently of rbrx? If so,registry
would always contain access to current system status even if you uninstall
rbrx.

Lastly(sorry), Is 3rd party cleaner(i use ccleaner to clean sys log files,temp
files,etc) still usable?

Thanks..
I am contemplating whether to buy RBRx, and I am having trouble with the uninstalling concept when you do a defrag. I can't get my head around that. I used FDISR for years and never had to uninstall for any reason. Will V10 eliminate uninstalling to do maintenance procedures? I will have an opportunity to get RBRx at a big discount shortly so if V10 is imminent, with a better way, I might go for it and then upgrade.

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I am contemplating whether to buy RBRx, and I am having trouble with the uninstalling concept when you do a defrag. I can't get my head around that. I used FDISR for years and never had to uninstall for any reason. Will V10 eliminate uninstalling to do maintenance procedures?
FDISR, now works with Windows 7. Never heard of it until recently and then tried it on Windows 7.

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