creating new baseline

[rich705]

Have only been using rbrx for less than 1 mnth. Still unsure about certain
functions of rbrx. Question concerns update of baseline.
Assuming,prior to creating new baseline, I have four snapshots.

Snapshot A contains folder #1 that I had planned to delete.
I delete folder #1.(not sure if I will need folder again,so will save snsht A)
Take snapshot B.(Folder#1 not in B)
Snapshots C & D same scenario,different folder.
Create new baseline which now contains snshts A,B,C,D.

If,at some point,you needed to recover system to new baseline,do you
now have deleted folders restored?

I know this is an oversimplified example since many other changes would
have taken place since initial installation baseline.

Thanks.....

[Froggie]

Hi Rich! Glad you asked the question 'cause there's just a few details you might not have a complete grasp of.

You mention "creating a new baseline." First of all, a Rollback BASELINE image DOES NOT contain any snapshots. What is does contain is the current system configuration only... the result of all your snapshot activity (including DELETIONS), all previous snapshots and their contents are gone.

If you use Rollback's BASELINE MANAGER function, you have only 2-choices... go back to the original installation (or previously re-baselined) snapshot ("Reset To Baseline" function), or set your BASELINE = CURRENT SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ("Update Baseline" function). No snapshots will be available following these operations.

In your scenario, if you use the Update Baseline function, your system will wind up at whatever state its at after Snapshot D. If you use the "Reset To Baseline" function, your system will be as it was right after the installation of Rollback (or previously re-baselined system).

You can't "set aside" a "baseline" to go back to... that is only done with SNAPSHOTS. One of your snapshots can easily be a pseudo baseline (name it what you want for reference) that you can return to anytime you want... but it's not a "baseline" in the Rollback vernacular.

[rich705]

Originally Posted by Froggie

Hi Rich! Glad you asked the question 'cause there's just a few details you might not have a complete grasp of.

You mention "creating a new baseline." First of all, a Rollback BASELINE image DOES NOT contain any snapshots. What is does contain is the current system configuration only... the result of all your snapshot activity (including DELETIONS), all previous snapshots and their contents are gone.

If you use Rollback's BASELINE MANAGER function, you have only 2-choices... go back to the original installation (or previously re-baselined) snapshot ("Reset To Baseline" function), or set your BASELINE = CURRENT SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ("Update Baseline" function). No snapshots will be available following these operations.

In your scenario, if you use the Update Baseline function, your system will wind up at whatever state its at after Snapshot D. If you use the "Reset To Baseline" function, your system will be as it was right after the installation of Rollback (or previously re-baselined system).

You can't "set aside" a "baseline" to go back to... that is only done with SNAPSHOTS. One of your snapshots can easily be a pseudo baseline (name it what you want for reference) that you can return to anytime you want... but it's not a "baseline" in the Rollback vernacular.

thanks for info.Am not doubting your description.If you open rbrx and click on baseline manager,then click on 'Update
baseline,you will see under WARNING where i got info on 'all existing snapshots will be consolidated into a new baseline,along with current system becoming new baseline'.
Where did i misinterpret?

[Froggie]

Originally Posted by rich705

thanks for info.Am not doubting your description.If you open rbrx and click on baseline manager,then click on 'Update
baseline,you will see under WARNING where i got info on 'all existing snapshots will be consolidated into a new baseline,along with current system becoming new baseline'.
Where did i misinterpret?

Hi Rich. You did not misinterpret. Their use of "consolidation" does not mean that everything that was ever in those snapshots is gathered together along with the current system state and placed in a new baseline.

If you think about it... your current system state is probably made up of pieces from all your snapshots. You have all the stuff that was in your original BASELINE (that hasn't been changed), any changes along the way (which were done at different snapshot levels) and your current system which hasn't been snapshotted yet. When you re-baseline, Rollback gathers all these pieces together and places them in one single snapshot... basically your new baseline. Originally, your "current system state" was actually made up of lots of pieces/changes from many snapshots, now all those changes are located in one snapshot, your new baseline. Any snapshot space taken up by data/changes that are no longer in the system is now freed up for future use by Windows (and Rollback).

Everything that your current system state DIDN'T have in it, still isn't there, and all additions along the way (that are still with you) remain with you.

That's what their consolidation means. No OLD stuff, just current stuff at one level instead of many levels.

[rich705]

Originally Posted by Froggie

Hi Rich. You did not misinterpret. Their use of "consolidation" does not mean that everything that was ever in those snapshots is gathered together along with the current system state and placed in a new baseline.

If you think about it... your current system state is probably made up of pieces from all your snapshots. You have all the stuff that was in your original BASELINE (that hasn't been changed), any changes along the way (which were done at different snapshot levels) and your current system which hasn't been snapshotted yet. When you re-baseline, Rollback gathers all these pieces together and places them in one single snapshot... basically your new baseline. Originally, your "current system state" was actually made up of lots of pieces/changes from many snapshots, now all those changes are located in one snapshot, your new baseline. Any snapshot space taken up by data/changes that are no longer in the system is now freed up for future use by Windows (and Rollback).

Everything that your current system state DIDN'T have in it, still isn't there, and all additions along the way (that are still with you) remain with you.

That's what their consolidation means. No OLD stuff, just current stuff at one level instead of many levels.

Thanks for in-depth comprehensive response. Although I will never completely grasp
the complexity(at least to me)of rollback rx,the information i gain from members such
as yourself and others,is extremely helpful. Always had a basic(just get by)working knowledge of Windows and its functions,and really wasn't interested beyond that.
Used a different forum for Window's problems,but responses were rarely helpful.

Thanks again...