Rollback and System Restore

[aladdin™]

Originally Posted by nexstar

Hi aladdin,

If you mean by 'he had the same problems' that he was linked to an older version of RB then that may be the case but, as you say, the current version didn't cure it either.

Twl845 did have a problem with system updates but nobody else, including you, has and it seems unconnected with RB.

He also had a long defrag after uninstalling RB but RB itself couldn't have been influencing this as it was uninstalled. He may have had data at various points on the disk after the uninstall and, being a 1.5TB disk, a defrag could well take some time. The same goes for Chkdsk as a full scan was requested.

Sorry, aladdin. I'm not trying to be difficult (honest ) but, it is very easy to go off at tangents with some of these issues!

Graham

Dearest Graham,

Very true! However in my case the current version cured everything beside activation.

Thus, my questions to him:

Just out of curiosity your HD is 1.5TB:

1. Is the above drive one partition or several partitions?
2. If several, then how big is your "System Drive" partition, on which Windows resides?
3. Do you have a separate "100MB System Reversed" hidden partition, since you have Windows 7?

Imagine, trying to take an image of 1.5TB with all the data and so forth, and later on to restore this image.

Best regards,

aladdin.

BTW, my problems with disk errors and so forth, were after uninstalling Rollback Rx, but they were direct result of Rollback Rx not being compatible with both BestCrypt and O&O DiskImage. Please read the link, I have provided.

[aladdin™]

Originally Posted by twl845

Thanks for your response. I'm still trying to make sense of the Windows update progress bar just going on forever and the update not completing. Later on in the day I attempted to do a defrag, and the defrag progress did the same thing. The analyzing progress bar got half way across the screen and just kept analyzing the same spot not progressing further. I let it do that for two hours thinking it was because I have a 1.5TB HD and it was just taking a long time. I finally stopped the defrag and it was like nothing was accomplished. Then my Malwarebytes started sending pop ups that my firewall had a trojan, and after quarantining it I checked the quarantine and nothing was there. I re-installed the firewall and that fixed that. That's when I tried to do a system restore, and that went on and on too. Taking all these symptoms together, I am now thinking that maybe System restore wasn't the problem with the update, but some other general thing that was happening. Finally I did a Chkdisk scan checking the sectors as well as errors that took a few hours to complete.
Everything seems to be working OK now, but I'm afraid to try anything. LOL

Best regards,

aladdin.

[twl845]

Originally Posted by aladdin™

Dear twl845,

I had two different problems, which are common to what you are having. One problem I had is the same what Runedog had too. The second problem I had was only by myself. My experience is very limited, I will ask you some questions.

1. SSD and Rollback Rx (Runedog and I had this problem - This has to do with all what have you described above):

a. Are you installing Rollback on SSD?
b. If yes, where did you download Rollback from, their site or from the link provided to you when you purchased Rollback Rx?


2. Rollback and some programs incompatibilities (I only had this problem - This has to do with Chkdisk and lots of errors:

a. Do you have BestCrypt installed on your computer?
b. Do you have O&O DiskImage installed on your computer?
c. Can you please post from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

The result of UpperFilters?

Best regards,

aladdin.

Sorry Aladdan no on all questions. I have to agree that system restore is not part of what ever the problem was. I used FDISR on my XP computer and the first thing I did was to disable system restore, and it remains off after years of using FDISR. I guess I'll never know what happened the other day, but I'm good now. I still haven't re-installed RB and won't until I feel confident I have all I need to know straight in my head.

[aladdin™]

Originally Posted by twl845

Sorry Aladdan no on all questions. I have to agree that system restore is not part of what ever the problem was. I used FDISR on my XP computer and the first thing I did was to disable system restore, and it remains off after years of using FDISR. I guess I'll never know what happened the other day, but I'm good now. I still haven't re-installed RB and won't until I feel confident I have all I need to know straight in my head.

Dear twl845,

I gathered as such that system restore is not the problem as you have previously mentioned and fully agree with above. When I was trying Rollback Rx, I found BestCrypt and O&O DiskImage being not compatibles with Rollback Rx, and they gave me the same headaches you are getting.

There might be some other program being not compatible with Rollback Rx. One way to test this is to download Wondershare Time Freeze (like Shadow Defender) and not like Wondershare Time Shuttle (a early sibling of Rollback Rx) and install the Time Freeze. On installation it gives you the programs which are not compatible with Time Freeze. I have since found out that those programs which are not compatible with Time Freeze are also not compatible with Rollback Rx.

Or, you might have some other problems, not related to Rollback Rx.

BTW, Time Freeze is on Free Giveaway.

Best regards,

aladdin.

[twl845]

Originally Posted by aladdin™

Dear twl845.

Just out of curiosity your HD is 1.5TB:

1. Is the above drive one partition or several partitions?
2. If several, then how big is your "System Drive" partition, on which Windows resides?
3. Do you have a separate "100MB System Reversed" hidden partition, since you have Windows 7?

Best regards,

aladdin.

Hi Aladdin, My hard drive looks like this on my imaging app.
Disk O 1397 GB
DELL Utility 39MB
Recovery 14GB
OS C: 1382GB

Maybe you can answer a question for me as a backup noobie. Looking at my hard drive info above, would you check all 4 items to be imaged, or just the OS C: 1382GB ? Thanks

[twl845]

Originally Posted by aladdin™

Dear twl845,

I gathered as such that system restore is not the problem as you have previously mentioned and fully agree with above. When I was trying Rollback Rx, I found BestCrypt and O&O DiskImage being not compatibles with Rollback Rx, and they gave me the same headaches you are getting.

There might be some other program being not compatible with Rollback Rx. One way to test this is to download Wondershare Time Freeze (like Shadow Defender) and not like Wondershare Time Shuttle (a early sibling of Rollback Rx) and install the Time Freeze. On installation it gives you the programs which are not compatible with Time Freeze. I have since found out that those programs which are not compatible with Time Freeze are also not compatible with Rollback Rx.

Or, you might have some other problems, not related to Rollback Rx.

BTW, Time Freeze is on Free Giveaway.

Best regards,

aladdin.

I'm not going through all that. If RB doesn't play nice with my computer, screw it if that's the case. I do see in the forum posts that it's not compatible with Windows back up, which I have been using.

[aladdin™]

Originally Posted by twl845

Hi Aladdin, My hard drive looks like this on my imaging app.
Disk O 1397 GB
DELL Utility 39MB
Recovery 14GB
OS (C 1382GB

Maybe you can answer a question for me as a backup noobie. Looking at my hard drive info above, would you check all 4 items to be imaged, or just the OS (C 1382GB ? Thanks

Dear twl845,

Dearest Froggie is the expert on Imaging. I have learned a lot from him, Graham, Owl, Carfal and many others on this forum.

For HD failures and imaging, it is better to have the smallest partition for OS (C). For Windows 7, I would recommend about 60GB to 80GB. I have moved all My Documents, My Music, My Video .... to another partition.

Best regards,

aladdin.

[carfal]

Originally Posted by twl845

I used FDISR on my XP computer and the first thing I did was to disable system restore, and it remains off after years of using FDISR. I guess I'll never know what happened the other day, but I'm good now. I still haven't re-installed RB and won't until I feel confident I have all I need to know straight in my head.

Hi twl845. I've been following this thread with interest and up until now i havent seen anything obvious that might be causing your problem. That is until you mentioned FDISR.

I get the impression from the above quote that you've left FDISR installed when you installed Rollback.

Is this in fact true?

[aladdin™]

Originally Posted by carfal

Hi twl845. I've been following this thread with interest and up until now i havent seen anything obvious that might be causing your problem. That is until you mentioned FDISR.

I get the impression from the above quote that you've left FDISR installed when you installed Rollback.

Is this in fact true?

Dear Carfal,

I don't think FDISR works on Windows 7, unless one replaces the bootsec files of Windows 7 with Windows Vista.

I believe that I asked him about this, in the following thread:

impact of rollnack rx uninstall

And, he confirmed that he doesn't have FDISR installed in Windows 7.

Originally Posted by twl845

I still have the .exe for FDISR on a CD. Are you saying WIN7 would take it now? It's 32x and my WIN7 is 64x. Some months ago I saw a few posts at Wilders Security forum talking about doing some tweeking to get it to work on 7. I don't have the knowledge to do that so I didn't try.

However, it is very easy to install FDISR on both Windows 7 x32 and Windows 7 x64. I have done it myself on Windows 7 x64.

Best regards,

aladdin.

[twl845]

Originally Posted by carfal

Hi twl845. I've been following this thread with interest and up until now i havent seen anything obvious that might be causing your problem. That is until you mentioned FDISR.

I get the impression from the above quote that you've left FDISR installed when you installed Rollback.

Is this in fact true?

FDISR is on my XP computer which isn't the same computer as the one talked about in this thread.