Can't Re- install RB

[bgoodman4]

Originally Posted by silver66

It happens everytime you want to do a clean install of Windows.

I never want to do a clean install of Windows and I go to all kinds of extremes to avoid having to do just that. In fact, thats one of the main reasons I use Rx in the first place, so I can avoid as much as possible, having to reinstal Windows due to some piece of malware or blunder I made myself. I have had to reinstall Windows a few times over the past 25 years and if I never have to do it again I will be most pleased.

[bgoodman4]

Originally Posted by nexstar

It obviously can't deal with a forced removal of RB which I find myself doing quite a lot when testing stuff.

Graham, what is a forced removal of Rx and how would it differ from an install? Also, I would think if you were testing you would want Rx in place so that you can back out of the test to a clean system.

One of the things on my do in list for early 2012 is to get into Virtualization. I love the idea of being able to test in perfect safety on a virtual PC and then simply get rid of the device when I am done. No need to rollback at all (I hope Rx will be OK with a VM on my PC, I guess I will find out soon enough).

[nexstar]

Originally Posted by bgoodman4

Graham, what is a forced removal of Rx and how would it differ from an install? Also, I would think if you were testing you would want Rx in place so that you can back out of the test to a clean system.

One of the things on my do in list for early 2012 is to get into Virtualization. I love the idea of being able to test in perfect safety on a virtual PC and then simply get rid of the device when I am done. No need to rollback at all (I hope Rx will be OK with a VM on my PC, I guess I will find out soon enough).

A forced removal, in RollBack's case, would be by trashing the RB MBR in some way. RB doesn't then get cleanly uninstalled and so can't 'phone home' to HDS to tell them it has been uninstalled. The testing is of RollBack itself rather than other software for which I would most certainly be using RB's facilities .

Like you, I've never really dabbled in virtualisation but can see the benefits in it and will probably make a concerted effort at some point to try it out. I'm pretty sure I have seen posts from users who do both VM and RB at the same time without problems so it should be ok.

Graham

[pvsurfer]

Graham & bg,

Fwiw, I use VirtualBox without any RBRx conflicts/issues. It works great (and best of all, it's freeware)!

pv

[twl845]

My Grand Daughters were constantly infecting their computer while on the internet doing games on various game sites. I had to re-install Windows on one occasion, and got them out of trouble using their AV and Malwarebytes on other occasions. Then I installed a virtual app called Shadow Defender. When you are going on line you open the app and virtualize the system. When you are finished being on line you shut down or re-start and everything you did while on line under the virtual app never happened. So if while on line using the virtual app, you get infected, just shut down. There are other virtual apps that are equally good. The girls were instructed to never go on line without starting Shadow defender first, thus They haven't been in trouble since. They don't use RBRx as yet.

[nexstar]

Originally Posted by pvsurfer

Graham & bg,

Fwiw, I use VirtualBox without any RBRx conflicts/issues. It works great (and best of all, it's freeware)!

pv

Thanks pv, I'll give it a go .

Graham

[bgoodman4]

Originally Posted by twl845

My Grand Daughters were constantly infecting their computer while on the internet doing games on various game sites. I had to re-install Windows on one occasion, and got them out of trouble using their AV and Malwarebytes on other occasions. Then I installed a virtual app called Shadow Defender. When you are going on line you open the app and virtualize the system. When you are finished being on line you shut down or re-start and everything you did while on line under the virtual app never happened. So if while on line using the virtual app, you get infected, just shut down. There are other virtual apps that are equally good. The girls were instructed to never go on line without starting Shadow defender first, thus They haven't been in trouble since. They don't use RBRx as yet.

I know about these lite virtualization programs and they are very good for surfing but thats not what I am after. With a full virtualization program you can have multiple OSs on one PC (and not have to get into dual booting). You can also put your VM (virtual machine) on a flash drive and then carry it with you. As long as the host machine has a "reader" program installed you can then run your VM from the flash drive. It would be as if you were on your home machine and when you unplug its as if you were never there. You can have different configerations of the same OS as well, say one for testing, one for graphics work, one for games, etc etc. There are many other attractive feature about VMs so if anyone is interested a google search (or a search on the Wilders forum) will turn up lots of info.

Also, thanks pvsurfer, its good to know that VBox and Rx work fine together. I am leaning towards VMware myself but you never know as I have heard very good things about VBox as well.

Finally, thanks for the clarification about forced uninstalls Graham, that is def something I hope never to have to do.

[carfal]

Guys, whatever VM solution you choose, i suggest that you create the actual VM files on an unprotected Rollback drive or as bgoodman4 has already suggested, on a flash drive.

The VM files become as large as a real HD eventually and for obvious reasons, you dont want Rollback tracking changes of large GB files.

I have been using VM's (VMWare Workstation) for many years with Rollback installed with no issues...... as long as the VM files are on an unprotected drive as already stated.

Goodluck.

[bgoodman4]

Originally Posted by carfal

Guys, whatever VM solution you choose, i suggest that you create the actual VM files on an unprotected Rollback drive or as bgoodman4 has already suggested, on a flash drive.

The VM files become as large as a real HD eventually and for obvious reasons, you dont want Rollback tracking changes of large GB files.

I have been using VM's (VMWare Workstation) for many years with Rollback installed with no issues...... as long as the VM files are on an unprotected drive as already stated.

Goodluck.

Thank you for the suggestion, def a good one to know about. Much appreciated.