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Old 12-21-2011, 09:48 AM
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I have just posted the following on the Wilders Security Forum and thought it would be a good idea to do so here as well.
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There have been many posts indicating that uninstalling Rx and defraging a drive is not necessary. That once Rx is installed all that is necessary is to use the snapshot defrag utility that is part of Rx. This makes no sense to me at all. Snapshots are a record of where data is (or was) on the drive. These locations (the location of the data) are protected by Rx in the event that they will need to be recovered through a rollback. Further more these records are kept on a portion of the drive that is hidden from Windows. I can see how if you have deleted a snap (or multiples of snaps) that a defrag of the snaps would be beneficial from the point of view that it will make it easier for Rx to keep track of where the protected data and the relevant hooks are located but how does this defrag the physical drive? Frankly I do not think it does, or can.

Through daily use the drive gets fragmented, Rx will record this fragmentation as snaps and the location of the fragmented data will be protected. If the drive is then defraged (not recommended with Rx installed but for the purposes of this discussion we will assume it has been done) RX will take another (probably large) snapshot and protect the locations of the moved data. If this snap is subsequently deleted defragging using Rxs defrag utility will reorganize the snapshot info and will (I believe) free the protected space, but it does not move any data around on the physical drive.

If this is correct it follows that by simply running the snapshot defragger you are in no way defragging the drive and thus it would be beneficial to periodically uninstal RX and run a 3rd party defrag program.

If I am wrong about any of this I would appreciate it if someone would explain explain to me why.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:39 AM
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There are a couple of stickies at the top of the section which go into more depth on this and the official line here is pretty much the same as your conclusion.

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Also, for what it's worth, I have never encountered a huge amount of fragmentation on uninstalling RB. The thing to do is just try it out. Uninstall after a reasonable period and analyse the fragmentation that exists to assess how necessary you feel it might be.

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Also fwiw... http://horizondatasys-forum.com/6707-post6.html

...and happy holidays!

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Old 12-21-2011, 01:43 PM
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I am due to carry out my monthly maintenance this week. I will take a screen-shot of the state of my drive as shown by Diskeeper (after 1 month of use since the last defrag) and post it.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:20 PM
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I am due to carry out my monthly maintenance this week. I will take a screen-shot of the state of my drive as shown by Diskeeper (after 1 month of use since the last defrag) and post it.
Excellent idea! It's much better to have some empirical evidence rather than, what tends to be, largely anecdotal .

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Old 12-21-2011, 04:08 PM
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I just uninstalled Rollback Rx and defrag using Windows 7 tools. The last time I did this was in June. The defrag tool measured 21% fragmented prior to using the tool. Also, RB had defragged shortly before this.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:07 PM
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I just did my monthly uninstall of Rx and the housekeeping that goes along with it. As promised above I took some screen shots of the hard drives fragmentation as shown by Diskeeper and am attaching them here. Normally I do this every 4 weeks but with the holidays I am a tad late. The fragmentation shown by DK is after a 5.5 week period.
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File Type: jpg Diskeeper 1.jpg (98.5 KB, 10 views)
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